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		By: JonathanCline		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eric -

Any language can work through the named pipe.  The Gem_Pipe.pdf documentation that I have is electronic only (which leaves a lot to be desired) and describes all the commands, which are text strings.  So the best language to use is one which can handle strings easily.  I wouldn&#039;t touch VBScript with a 10 mile pole, since it&#039;s a Microsoft product and limited to running on only their buggy machines.  If it&#039;s the only language you know, I suggest learning python which is basic-like.  I would bet even Matlab might work to talk to Tecan, since Matlab can handle strings too, though it would be a bit awkward.  I wouldn&#039;t want to use C either, because handling the strings wouldn&#039;t be as easy.

In summary I would check out python.  There are a few python-for-biologists books (bioinformatics using python) out there.

Do this; google for: tecanprogramming site:groups.yahoo.com.  There is a yahoo group which has VBScript source code examples, which I found after writing my post.

I was initially very skeptical of the GUI performance, but I&#039;ve changed my mind a bit.  The GUI makes some very intelligent decisions which make life easier, in most cases, so it is still completely usable on it&#039;s own.  Things like: changing the number of pipettes which graphically selects wells, or automatically incrementing pipette wells (row or column) within loops, etc.  Believe me, I have used supposedly &quot;GUI scripting&quot; equipment with far worse GUI interfaces; in comparison Tecan is doing well with theirs.

Of course it can&#039;t offer the power of, say, running arbitrary Java programs and sending commands over the network...  or, running a server which analyzes protocols from protocol-online.org to translate it automatically into Tecan-instructions..  Big things like that need external applications.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric &#8211;</p>
<p>Any language can work through the named pipe.  The Gem_Pipe.pdf documentation that I have is electronic only (which leaves a lot to be desired) and describes all the commands, which are text strings.  So the best language to use is one which can handle strings easily.  I wouldn&#8217;t touch VBScript with a 10 mile pole, since it&#8217;s a Microsoft product and limited to running on only their buggy machines.  If it&#8217;s the only language you know, I suggest learning python which is basic-like.  I would bet even Matlab might work to talk to Tecan, since Matlab can handle strings too, though it would be a bit awkward.  I wouldn&#8217;t want to use C either, because handling the strings wouldn&#8217;t be as easy.</p>
<p>In summary I would check out python.  There are a few python-for-biologists books (bioinformatics using python) out there.</p>
<p>Do this; google for: tecanprogramming site:groups.yahoo.com.  There is a yahoo group which has VBScript source code examples, which I found after writing my post.</p>
<p>I was initially very skeptical of the GUI performance, but I&#8217;ve changed my mind a bit.  The GUI makes some very intelligent decisions which make life easier, in most cases, so it is still completely usable on it&#8217;s own.  Things like: changing the number of pipettes which graphically selects wells, or automatically incrementing pipette wells (row or column) within loops, etc.  Believe me, I have used supposedly &#8220;GUI scripting&#8221; equipment with far worse GUI interfaces; in comparison Tecan is doing well with theirs.</p>
<p>Of course it can&#8217;t offer the power of, say, running arbitrary Java programs and sending commands over the network&#8230;  or, running a server which analyzes protocols from protocol-online.org to translate it automatically into Tecan-instructions..  Big things like that need external applications.</p>
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		By: Eric Berquist		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So, I&#039;ve got a Tecan as well (a Freedom EVO 150), and as you know, the GUI leaves much to be desired, and like you, I want to script it. Unlike you, I don&#039;t know Perl, but I&#039;m willing to learn whatever I might need to.

My question is, where do I start? I can&#039;t find anything in my manuals about starting off with VBScript, nevermind using another language.

It&#039;s nice to see someone who has merged a love of computers/electronics and science...I can&#039;t seem to find much on it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I&#8217;ve got a Tecan as well (a Freedom EVO 150), and as you know, the GUI leaves much to be desired, and like you, I want to script it. Unlike you, I don&#8217;t know Perl, but I&#8217;m willing to learn whatever I might need to.</p>
<p>My question is, where do I start? I can&#8217;t find anything in my manuals about starting off with VBScript, nevermind using another language.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s nice to see someone who has merged a love of computers/electronics and science&#8230;I can&#8217;t seem to find much on it.</p>
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